September 27th, 2009, 3:39 pm (Join Date: Sep 2009) (Posts: 73 --or is it now 90? I don‘t know?)
GordonWayneWatts  
Man On The Street (Note: I am banned from the Hannity forum by Moderator, Lee Kington simply for expressing a dissenting opinion -not for threatening, advocating threat, or making fun of someone’s personal life -such as when Rush Limbaugh had a temporary drug addiction. This mod is thin-skinned, and, if he doesn’t like people disagreeing with him, maybe he should find a different line of work. *** Here, I look at the pros and cons of Socialized Healthcare -to try and rebut the liberals’ argument.

UPDATED SCORE CARD Reprise: -as of Sun 9-27-2009

Assuming that "Socialized Healthcare" is a bad thing like all my buds, hommies, and peeps are saying (as well as my inner voice and conscience), then we've collectively tried to figure out why "SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE in some countries appears to work better in costs (financially) and in health stats (physically).

**1** New, as of today, Sun 27 Sept 2009: The US Constitution does not specifically authorize healthcare for citizens, since the powers to specifically granted to the Federal Government are reserved to the States. That would be like calling the FBI to respond when a criminal breaks-in to your house. No – they would refer you to your state or local police. The Feds only exist to address the ‘national good’ like when crimes cross state lines or the like.

**2** New, as of today, Sun 27 Sept 2009: Even if Socialized Healthcare were a good idea, and worked in Japan and other countries –and would work here in the U.S.A., it is a violation of the 14th Amendment to seize one person’s property or money without Due Process and ‘redistribute the wealth’ to another –as would be the case in a national healthcare mandate.

**3** NEW: as of today Fri9-25-2009: Does Japan have less influx of illegal aliens than the USA? ~~~ And, if so, does this influx differential impact the costs of healthcare due to US illegals getting lot's of free healthcare? (If so, this might account for the apparent success of 'Socialized Healthcare' in Japan.)

NEW: *4* Cap medical malpractice lawsuit awards (I don't know if this is a reason for Japan's apparent success, but it *would* help cut healthcare costs -since doctors would not need as much med-mal insurance --THIS is a good conservative idea.)

*5* Socialized Health care countries might have more honest Joe Average citizens -who are less apt to take a free handout -thus not drive up healthcare costs as much as USA

*6* Other countries (no matter their communist or socialist gov't's) certainly eat healthier -and exercise more

*7* Possible skew of average figures due to some countries possibly not accurately reporting all fetus mortalities.

*8* Possible skew of averages due to highway wreck deaths

*9* An abortion wildcard?

*10* NEW: ""Further, Japan tightly controls costs including the amount physicians are paid."" (Comment: This smacks of Big Brother -but, in all fairness, if the doctor is a child molester --or prescribes poison or illegal drugs, then Big Brother *does* step in and do something, so why not here when financial poison is prescribed by ludicrously high salaries -hey, it worked in Japan...)

Now that *I* have summarized and collated and done a good deal of working, researching, and asking around to get some answers (not to mention my heavy lifting in other conservative and pro-life causes: "Write-in" save -- Schiavo punt, etc.) ... These last 3 need some documentation and clarification.

OK, it's someone else's turn to find the stats and documentation --could I get little help here.

GOAL: Once we've found out why they're beating us, we can ask Hannity to get the word out for USA to *improve* in those areas (especially *1* and *2* above) while leaving the 'communist' ideas to bite the dust.

** 11 ** New point: CONSERVATIVE talking point: Japan is not totally "socialized' --since doctors' offices are privately run, and only hospitals are state-run. Thus Japan's "Free Market" principles are a part of the success of their healthcare system. LIBERAL COUNTER VIEW: However, Japan is more socialized than America and yet more successful in health and cost metrics. GORDON SAYS: It's still not fully analyzed, but the pieces are coming together -let's see this one thru and maybe get Hannity's take on it later...

--'FLASH' Gordon Wayne Watts
Lakeland, Florida U S A (between Orlando & Tampa)